User talk:Lehall

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Thank you

Help me
Strawberry Cupcake Kitten is deleting my pages and some useful info that i put on other pages on this wiki.Please tell him to leave my pages alone.

MermaidMelodyFanForever 20:22, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Hey,

StrawberryCupcakeKitten is threating me!Please help!

A comment on my talk page

I'm going to settle some things RIGHT NOW. What you left on my talk page is considered harassment, and if I become an admin, I will be sure there is a zero tolerance policy on comments like that. '''If you breathe another insult again, I will see to it you are banned for at least a week. '''

As for the pages, that was completely useless. Tell me, how is a page about ONE doll ever going to be useful? I don't think I'm "cool" for deleting a page, especially considered I can't delete it. I think I am a worthy editor who is doing his best to keep this wiki clean.

Cupcake says: [http://monsterhigh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Vaporeon82996 ''' Stay Fabulous! '''] 20:24, December 29, 2011 (UTC).

MermaidMelodyFanForever 20:29, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose calling me a "horrible IDIOT" is fine? Lehall, I stand by what I said and I will not stand for any insult of any kind, especially the childish ones she left on my page.

 Cupcake says:  Stay Fabulous!  20:37, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Please dont let StrawberryCupcakeKitten become a admin.He would ban half the people that try to stand up to him on this wiki.He also commented to me that he would get me banned for trying to "harrass" him.

MermaidMelodyFanForever 20:39, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

How is you calling me an idiot standing up to me?

Lehall, please, I assure you I would not immediately ban anyone unless I had a good reason, and it never be permanent. MMFF keeps making useless pages, and then wants to resort to insults when people try to tell her the pages are unneeded. If she has somehow swayed your decision to make me an admin, just please find someone suited for the job. MMFF is a perfect example of why this wiki needs some authority. Maybe I was a little harsh on her, but she needed to be told that insulting someone over a page is never alright and needs to stop. I'll email you more details if you need, but I'm not airing this entire situation for everyone to see.

 Cupcake says:  Stay Fabulous!  20:47, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Private message
how do you privet mesage someone

how do you privet mesage some one?Meerkatmonster 16:19, December 30, 2011 (UTC)meerkatmonster

Good Job
Dear Lehall

I've heard about you around monster high wiki and i think your its number #1 ghoul! Smashing' job, mate!

how do you change Admin146 11:29, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Redirects
May I enquire as to why misspellings are considered legitimate redirects? Parrotbeak 18:44, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Only because that's what people are typing in to try and find stuff, and I'd prefer to make it easy for them to get where they'd like to be. We're pretty vigilant with cleanups when people use, for example, Cleo De Nile rather than Cleo de Nile, but there are so many iterations of New Ghoul @ School (&c) that I've found it's easier to have contingencies. -Lehall 18:49, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't put NG'at'S up for deletion, I only asked it to be moved. While I didn't cry for its loss, I do concur that that's a redirect that c/should stay, because of '@' being a weird portion of a title. However, I see no point in keeping misspelled redirects that have no basis in canon or no longer have a relevant basis. I see those this wiki had have been removed already, so there's little point in me arguing over their existence. So, that sorta leaves me arguing that... I 'know' what I'm doing at least a significant amount of the time? If what I wanted gone is mostly gone and what I didn't want gone went without my input? Am I still doing stuff wrong that I need that warning? (It's fine if you say yes, but I'm genuinely confused here). Parrotbeak 19:03, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * First of all, you are doing an awesome job, and not doing anything wrong at all, so there's no worries there. You're far and away one of the top editors on the wiki and I do trust your judgment, so please don't feel aggrieved, because you and I are in agreement.


 * I'm going through every single page on here right now to make sure it's all a clean and simple user experience to find information as quickly as possible. The note wasn't a warning at all, just a heads up since you're doing a lot of the same thing, and I didn't want there to be any crossed wires. (My reasoning for keeping all the random spellings, incidentally, is that I feel that redirects are more of a wiki maintenance thing than a canon/content thing.) -Lehall 19:11, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

UX
I'd love to help, but... eh, what is/does a 'user experience' task force? Parrotbeak 14:11, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Love it! thanks so much for sharing with me...I am going to help you promote it with a Spotlight ad! great work...

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Admin
Dear Lehall

I think I would be a great administrator. I love to make edits on the monster High wikia. I make sure I check it everyday and If there is any mess ups I help to fix them. Please give me a try -Orangegirl7

Not done yet
Hi please can you ban ParrortBeak cause he has my name on his profile also his nasty and rude! Thank you -Freeawaystars (not logged in)

Doll logs/diaries
I've been going over the way this wiki organizes the MH diaries, notes, messages, and other stuff written on the doll boxes or packaged within. I have a few suggestions for improvement I'd like some feedback on.
 * The main diary pages are rather haphazardly named. The core line v1 dolls have no additional description to denote to what doll they belong and this is also true for the new character dolls from v2. Except for Clawd, whose diary is randomly specified as 'School's Out'. On top of that, the doll line specification sometimes is put before the character's name and sometimes behind. I.E., it's "Lagoona Blue's School's Out Diary", but "SDCC Ghoulia Yelps's Diary". Since every core line incarnation is officially nameless ('Basic' isn't any more canon or prominent than 'School's Out'), I propose treating the 'Basic' diaries the same way as the 'School's Out' and extending the 'School's Out' description to all dolls of the line. I.E., a page like "Draculaura's Diary" should be moved to "Basic Draculaura's Diary". "Draculaura's Diary" can be left as a redirect and v3 dolls' diaries should be left alone for now (I have a page ready, but its accuracy depends on what line the upcoming sister 2-packs belong to, so I'm refraining from doing any v3 info updates until confirmation). Which brings me to the next point: a standard for where to place the line notification in the title. I can't think of an argument that makes me favor one option over the other, so maybe you can decide on this.
 * That sounds like a good plan. Line notification is tricky...I think I prefer the order of name-line, ie Ghoulia Yelps's SDCC Diary.


 * While we're at the topic of line descriptions, the SDCC thing vs Exclusive merchandise thing appears rather confusing to me. There's a lot of exclusive merchandise out, reserving the page for just the Comic-Con dolls is counter-intuitive. I suggest moving it to 'San Diego Comic-Con merchandise' on account that we have no reason to expect Mattel will create exclusive merchandise for other events (otherwise we could move it to 'Event merchandise', but I prefer to seek unity with the line descriptions while we can). What we can expect though, is that Mattel will release the same characters as event-exclusives in the future, so I think it would be an idea to move Frankie's and Ghoulia's diary page to 'SDCC 2010 Frankie Stein's Diary' and 'SDCC 2011 Ghoulia Yelps's Diary'.
 * Agreed.


 * Looking at the Diary template and the semi-announcement of a fourth core line incarnation, I think it'd be a good time to look at the aesthetics of the template. The more rows, the more obstructive the template looks. It might be an idea to split off the Comic-Con exclusive diaries into their own template, since the rest of the Diary template only covers the core line diaries. Also, it will make a difference if the 'School's Out' notifications are filtered out so that each diary image link only has the characters' name written underneath, which costs less space. That is, if it is possible to write the core line incarnation's name in front of the incarnation row. That ought to give people a clearer idea of what each row represents.
 * I'll split them off and make that text change, it's a pretty quick edit. Let me know if you have any other ideas for how that might be formatted in the future as it grows...should the Basic diaries have the images, while the others are text-only? Should each character have their own diary template for use on their individual pages?...something to think about.


 * Is there a specific reason to write 'Diary' with a capital rather than 'diary' in the page titles? And do we want links within the diary pages? I find those to be distracting and without much function.
 * I set them all up with capitalized titles because I was trained in AP style (for journalism); that's the only reason they're like that. I've seen some of your edits so I think your instinct with links is correct - ie, don't link every single mention of Clawdeen, but do link "that mysterious zombie boy" with Don of the Dead, since we surmise it's the same person.


 * I don't think the 'Doll Diaries' page fulfills any role with the existence of the 'MH Diaries' page. All it is is a page containing a template, and nothing else. I made 'Doll logs' as a page to list all the types of texts that come with the dolls on as a sort of more inclusive replacement, so I don't think we have a reason to keep 'Doll Diaries'. Not sure if the diary image link in character profiles should then go to 'Doll logs' or 'MH Diaires'.
 * I think I agree. It was set up to be a landing page with the idea that the full list of entries is an overwhelming entry point, but it makes sense to remove the extraneous layer. So I'd say, profiles should go to MH Diaries. I'd like to work in Doll logs to the profiles and that page too...any suggestions?


 * Speaking of 'MH Diaries', how about moving it to 'Diary continuity'? I've been thinking the MH wiki could use some pages to lay out at least the main three continuities (diary, webisodes and books), and the 'MH Diaries' page already fulfills that role.
 * That's a VERY good idea. I don't know about the name change because I don't think the casual browser would understand that there are different continuities, so I'll have a think about it.
 * That also reminds me, do you think we should do an overall "On this day" calendar that would be displayed on the front page? There are enough birthdays and diary entries to make up a loose timeline, ie 'The Ghouls went to Gloom Beach'.


 * If you have time, could you please move the template on 'Frankie Stein's Diary' up to the top of the page? Parrotbeak 20:51, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Done!
 * Thank you for the quick reply and the work on Frankie's page.
 * Name-line order is fine by me.
 * I just noticed your work on the Diary template. While I'm grateful for your quick action, I do not agree with the new ordering. I may not have been clear, but 'Basic' and 'School's Out' are both non-official terms to describe two different, officially defined incarnations of the core line, which is inherently nameless. The name 'Basic', while giving the impression it covers all the non-themed first dolls of characters released, does not do that in a sense that coincides with the actual sets. 'Basic' is the fan-name given to the original eight non-themed dolls and as such a leftover term from simpler times. When a new set of non-themed dolls were released and some of them were the same characters from the first line, 'School's Out' was invented to distinguish between the same-character dolls from 'Basic'. Without immediate conflict, Abbey, Spectra and Clawd can be called 'Basic', but that puts a very difficult (at least from wiki perspective) to maintain spin on the way 'Basic' and 'School's Out' as names are used. 'Basic' and 'School's Out' are both core sublines that can be efficiently defined by release period, marketing and diary content. Splitting the three new faces out and putting them with the old crew is like putting y9, y10 and y11 with group x rather than with group y simply because there's no x9, x10 and x11. Similar content is needlessly pulled apart to fill only a theoretical gap. It also leaves the weird implication that 2-packs like Clawd and Draculaura and presumably Clawdeen and Howleen contain dolls from separate lines. Or if those two merely as a result of the 2-pack are considered part of the new line... well, then it becomes very complicated to define. Perhaps Basic and School's Out can further help explain the consideration. Even if you would not agree with these definitions of 'Basic' and 'School's Out' from a personal perspective, I think you'll agree that for the sake of wiki organization and sincerity to the official splits in the core line it's more efficient to go with this and keep it as a note on the doll line pages that what constitutes 'Basic' is not the same everywhere (i.e., on places where people don't have to think about the implications of calling a doll 'Basic' or 'School's Out').
 * I think the Diary template images should stay. They make the template look nice and given an immediate idea about the diary's identity.
 * I think diary templates for characters could be of use in the future, but the matter is oganized well now when a character has two 'full' diaries tops. Perhaps Clawdeen should get her own template if her next doll has its own diary, but that's something we'll have to wait and see.
 * I forgot about vaguely described matters in diaries. I do agree they should be linked.
 * I'll have to finish up Doll logs first and have it clear what material is out there before I can give any thoughts on how to work them into character articles.
 * I've been intending to write 'Monster High (franchise)' for a while now and within a section on continuities. With that, I think an article ending in 'continuity' should not be surprise-find, even to a casual browser.
 * I think a timeline on the front page is nice, but there's a bit of a thing that we'll likely need two: one for real-world stuff and one for fictional stuff. Mixing those up would get messy real quick. Could that be made to work? Parrotbeak 15:54, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't move most diary pages myself because the pages are locked, so if you agree with the plan as is, please go ahead. Also:
 * Frankie Stein's 2010 Diary still needs " =Frankie Stein's Diary=" deleted from the coding.
 * SDCC Frankie Stein's Diary is laid out wrongly. "My first - Frankie Stein" should be under the Cover header. And the date should be a header itself.
 * Most diary pages lack the cover notification. Those are:

Hope you can find the time to fix this. Oh, and I think I'm done with thinking up wiki rules, so it's up to you now to approve or remove. Parrotbeak 16:28, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Frankie Stein's 2010 Diary: Why would anyone want to read someone else's diary without asking first?
 * Clawdeen Wolf's 2010 Diary: This is my diary. If you want your life to last longer than it takes to read it. You won't.
 * Holt Hyde's Diary: It'll burn me up if you read without asking.
 * Draculaura's 2010 Diary: Volume one thousand five hundred and ninety-nine...and three quarters
 * Lagoona's 2010 Diary: Hey, Brah! If you find my diary please return it to me when you're done reading it. Lates
 * Deuce Gorgon's Diary: Keep your eyes off my journal or you'll spend the rest of your life as a lawn ornament.
 * Ghoulia Yelps's Diary: The private thoughts of Ghoulia Yelps. Please refrain from reading my diary.
 * Cleo de Nile's 2010 Diary: For royal eyes only!
 * Things are busy right now but I'll try to do them by the end of today at the latest. Thank you! -Lehall 17:41, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

hi

plz ban parrortbeak his nasty to me

please ban parrortbeak if deletes edits i do that are good!

please ban parrortbeak cause we had a arugement and he has my name on his page i dont want it there i always want it to be gone but he always put it back i dont like it ! thanks

please do somthing about parrotbeak his calling me nasty names i have prove!